Dr. Axe: Hey, guys, Dr. Josh Axe here with
Welcome to Ancient Medicine Today.
Today we’re going to be talking about the
many things that are actually destroying your
thyroid and some of the top foods and nutrients
and herbs you need to start taking in order
to boost your thyroid health.
Jordan, there are so many people today that
are struggling with thyroid issues.
I remember when I first opened my clinic in
Nashville, I was surprised by how many women
were coming to my office with Hashimoto’s
disease, hypothyroidism, a number of other
How prevalent is hypothyroidism?
Then let’s start jumping in to some of the
things we can start to do to fix our thyroid.
Jordan: Well, I think the issues with our
thyroid really is environmental and that’s
perfect for today’s discussion.
We’re going to talk to you about some of the
hidden destroyers of your thyroid health in
But I would guess, and I’m just guessing,
that thyroid disease diagnosed in what they
call sub-clinical probably affects more than
half of the women above 35 years of age.
Dr. Axe: Wow.
Jordan: I would add adrenal to that.
The adrenal thyroid axis, so to speak, is
absolutely compromised today with all of the
challenges that we have in our environment,
everything that we’re putting in our bodies,
surrounding our bodies with.
We’re going to help you change that.
So, if you know anybody today that is a female–and
males have thyroid issues too, believe it
or not–go ahead and click that share button
because we’re going to teach you how to avoid
some of these common thyroid destroyers and
some ways to boost and balance your thyroid.
Dr. Axe: All right, Jordan, let’s dive right
in and talk about some of the things destroying
Number one here I’ll have you talk about pizza
Jordan: Well, first of all, this is a really
This is like the Alice in Wonderland pizza
First of all, we want to be very clear.
We’re not against pizza boxes.
This is an example of modern technology and
packaging that’s laced with chemicals.
You can even smell the chemicals.
There are various glues.
There are various bleaches, etc.
So, when you expose yourself to some of these
compounds, they actually can adhere to some
of the receptor sites that are thyroid-specific.
So, when you’re dealing with a lot of particularly
food handling materials, you’re going to get
residue from here.
I will say this.
It’s probably better that there’s nothing
in here, even though this would be like a
tiny Elvis version of pizza.
But what you wrap your food in, what you store
your food in–plastics, plastic wrap, aluminum
foil–can be very deleterious to your health.
Dr. Axe: Oh yeah, big time.
Jordan: So, point number one, avoid tiny pizza
Dr. Axe: Absolutely.
Well, you know, one of the other things that
might surprise people is popcorn.
I read an article here.
Actually, this is a study out of Harvard that
says a lot of these flavorings in popcorn
are actually worse for you in cigarettes.
So, pretty crazy here.
You can see these popcorn kernels.
When you’re doing popcorn, make sure it’s
The other thing they talked about in the study
is the lining.
When you’re actually putting in microwaveable
popcorn, the lining in there actually has
a plastic like substance that then gets on
your popcorn and they are endocrine disruptors.
They cause liver issues, can cause kidney
issues over time.
So, again, popcorn, I know it’s typically
thought of, Jordan, this is one of those diet
snacks out there.
A lot of people are trying to do the low fat
microwaveable popcorn but we know it affects
the livers, affects the kidneys and according
to one Harvard researcher, it could be worse
for you than cigarettes.
Jordan: Think about this.
Most of what we’re going to talk about today,
it’s about convenience.
You mentioned microwaves.
Microwaving food wasn’t up here, but getting
radiation into your body, I was told since
I was young by my dad, who’s a naturopath
and a chiropractor don’t have a microwave
in your home, don’t stand in front of a microwave
when someone is using it and don’t ever eat
It’s been dramatically altered and destroyed
like nothing else.
So, think about this.
We are not against convenience, but in many
cases, doing things the shortcut way shortcuts
Dr. Axe: Yeah.
Jordan: So, now we’re going to talk about
I’ll admit, I haven’t been a big flosser in
my life the last few years.
Now I really believe in the health of my gums,
so I am flossing.
But the chemicals and even the materials that
this floss is made from can be harmful.
This is all about endocrine disrupting.
Endocrine is your hormonal system and these
toxins and chemicals can bind to the thyroid-specific
receptor sites, even causing Hashimoto’s thyroiditis.
So, it causes an autoimmune phenomenon.
So, when you use dental floss–and not everyone
likes this–use the kind that is more sustainable.
Get it from a health food store.
The fibers are different.
The junk they put in it is certainly removed.
Make sure to read.
You’ve got artificial colors, dyes, etc.
Make sure to floss but use floss.
It’ll be off color.
It’ll be from your health food store but find
safe dental floss is a good search term for
Dr. Axe: One of the things Jordan and I both
promote and love doing is oil pulling instead.
Again, you can get natural floss and that’s
great, but doing oil pulling, doing some coconut
oil mixed with maybe some good essential oil
such as myrrh oil and clove oil, swishing
that around in your mouth, that’s a good replacement
The next one here, we’ve got these pans that
are made with things such as Teflon and you
can see here that obviously it’s great because
these are known as typically nonstick pans,
but eventually . . . and I know in certain
countries, Jordan, these types of pans are
actually banned in certain countries as well.
Jordan: Ban the pan.
Dr. Axe: Ban the pan.
These actually have something called PFOAs.
When you heat these pans, they give off carcinogenic
agents, that means cancer causing agents as
So, we definitely highly recommend getting
rid of these pans that are nonstick.
Use stainless steel when you are cooking.
Typically you want to put some oil in the
pan such as coconut oil or ghee or avocado
oil, letting it get warm and then putting
your food on a couple minutes after it’s warm
and you’ll actually have a lot less stick
But this has actually been specifically connected
to kidney and liver disease as well as being
So, stay away from this.
Switch to stainless steel, copper, ceramic.
These things are better instead.
Jordan: This is really, really harmful also.
You can see the surface.
This is a beautiful new one.
But when you begin to use a fork or a knife
or even certain spatulas, you start to cut
it up and fragments of this get in your food
and certainly the gases.
This is a bummer because it is amazing.
You can fry an egg in here and not use any
Dr. Axe: Yeah.
Jordan: Here’s the way I look at it.
I overcome the issue of nonstick by having
teenagers in the house and we make them clean
the pots and pans.
But it’s true though, people don’t like to
make eggs and other entrees because they stick
Even the make the oil warm trick only works
some of the time.
But listen, remember, convenience is important
but your health is more important.
Wouldn’t you be glad to know this now than
What a silly thing that this could be causing
your thyroid issues.
Thyroid issues lead to so many other issues.
Picnic plates–now, this is, again, similar
to the super tiny pizza box.
Trees don’t have bark that looks like this.
It’s got chemicals.
These chemicals when you interact with them,
they give off toxins in the air.
We talked about breathing in essential oils,
olfactory nervous system.
This is the opposite.
Again, you’re eating, you’re getting pieces
or even on a micro level in there.
You want to avoid things that excessively
bleached, including bleached flour because
that can, again, disrupt your endocrine system.
Dr. Axe: Yeah.
Next one here is shampoo.
We know that shampoo can be loaded with a
number of additive ingredients–sodium lauryl
sulfate, propylene glycol, different types
of parabens, different types of synthetic
fragrances–that a lot of people can develop
All of these are found in our shampoo today.
The thing is, Jordan, you and I both know
this and use these ourselves.
Why not use natural things like aloe vera
gel, essential oils, and other plant-based
compounds that actually do your hair more
I can tell you I’ve made my own shampoo using
aloe vera gel and rosemary oil and it works
In fact, it’s very volumizing to the hair.
It’s a better thing to do and implement.
It actually is just as cost effective.
So, again, aloe vera gel, rosemary oil, other
oils work well such as sage and cedar wood
are also good for naturally supporting and
thickening your hair as well.
We’ve got some great recipes for natural shampoo
if you go to draxe.com or just search Dr.
Axe shampoo recipe.
We’ve got some great ones there for you.
Then Jordan, dust?
Jordan: Actually riding around in a broom
is very dangerous for your . . .
Dr. Axe: Be careful with that.
Jordan: Dust can be a serious issue.
When I came in, I thought it was the broom,
like the handle is made of . . . anyway, dust
is a serious issue.
I live in Florida part of the year, which
is very damp and moist.
You go into some houses and you see the air
Just changing them, you have to wear these
You’ve written an article not too long ago
about the benefits of house plants, not fake
See, that’s the thing, people put fake houseplants
in there and then you’re actually getting
more chemicals, but certain types of houseplants
can purify the air.
There are also various air purification systems.
You can even buy for a couple dollars more
better filters that will be on the micron
Now there’s UV light within the filters that
can kill microbes, etc.
But these dust particles and really things
from your home, whether it’s your carpet,
your paint, obviously there are compounds
that are lining the attic walls.
We used to have asbestos, etc.
These are all endocrine disruptors.
They compete for healthy compounds and can
damage your thyroid.
All of these things–the shampoo, I remember
once looking at a baby shampoo ingredient
I didn’t recognize . . . the average person
wouldn’t recognize a single ingredient.
It wasn’t like avocado, coconut oil.
Everything had numbers and letters in it and
one word, which is not a word, by the way,
it’s a chemical.
We’re putting this on our kids’ hair?
Dr. Axe: Yeah.
Jordan: These babies have much more ability
to react negatively to that toxic load.
So, we’ve got to clean up our act, forget
convenience, go for health and guess what?
Every one of these areas you can find a healthy
alternative, shop at the right stores.
Your plates will be a little brown.
Your pizza boxes won’t exist because you won’t
get pizza in a box.
That’s the easiest way.
You won’t ride around on broomsticks.
You’ll have less dust.
You’ll use better shampoo than that.
You won’t use these beautiful nonstick pans
and make your teenagers clean and do the dishes.
That works for us in our house.
Dr. Axe: Let’s talk about some tips to support
the health of your thyroid.
Before I do that, we want to give you guys
a shout out and also ask you . . . hey, help
us spread the word that food is medicine.
So, we talked about the things that are toxic
to your thyroid.
We’re now about to get into the things that
can help support the health of your thyroid.
So, take a minute right now.
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We want to say thanks for being on mission
We’ll see who’s joining us here, Jordan.
We’ve got Candy Brazeer [SP] watching from
Killeen [SP], Texas.
Hey, Candy, thanks for joining me here today.
Amber Roush [SP] makes a comment.
She says, “I use CBD oil and coconut oil to
do oil pulling daily with those two together.”
We’ve got Angie Kennedy watching from Arizona.
Hey, Angie, thanks for joining us here today.
We’ve got Sharon Walls watching from Houston,
We’ve got Gloria McCann watching from Maryland
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Thanks so much for joining us here today.
Another comment here, great comment said,
“You forgot to mention cast iron skillets.”
That’s from Margaret Lopez.
Margaret, you’re right.
Cast iron, a great type of skillet you can
So, Jordan, let’s first talk here.
I’ll talk about essential oils and have you
jump into ashwagandha.
You know, essential oils, number one benefit
of them is that they can replace the toxins
in your house.
So, as we mentioned earlier for shampoo, using
The chemicals in our deodorant supply that
have things like aluminum, making your own
at home deodorant with things like baking
soda, coconut oil, beeswax.
A great male scent is sandalwood mixed with
For women, I really thing jasmine and ylang-ylang
along with things like lavender and other
citrus oils like lemon are great blends.
Again, using essential oils to replace the
And then certain oils have been shown to help
support cellular communication and really
support balancing out immune reactions in
Frankincense and myrrh are two of those oils
that have great support of the immune system.
Those are oils you can actually rub directly
on that thyroid area there as well.
Other oils as well.
A lot of times emotional stress can overwhelm
our adrenals, our kidneys and our thyroid.
So, using essential oils that just reduce
the stress–ylang-ylang, lavender, chamomile,
even sage oil, all of these oils have been
shown to naturally reduce stress and improve
sleep, all of which can help the thyroid.
Ashwagandha is probably the superstar herb
It helps to balance cortisol and DHEA levels.
It helps to promote sleep, less weight around
But really, I would not be without ashwagandha,
not just if you’ve got thyroid issues, but
to protect your thyroid and keep it healthy.
I use the term sub-clinical thyroid issues.
These are found in people that don’t have
dramatic deficiencies in their blood.
They don’t have imbalances that are dramatic.
But you can find just through basal temperature,
underarm temperature, if you’re in the 96s,
you probably have subclinical hypo or low
Ashwagandha is a great protector.
This is great for men and women, helps to
balance hormones, promotes anti-aging, strength,
Again, if you’re 25 or older, take an ashwagandha
supplement, a supplement with ashwagandha
in it or make an infusion.
Dr. Axe: Totally agree.
Next superfood we have here for the thyroid
is bone broth.
Bone broth is one of the most reparative foods
on the planet.
In fact, it’s loaded with collagen, which
is kind of the glue that holds your body together.
It’s important for having healthy skin.
It’s important for your digestive system,
but it’s also important for supporting the
health of your thyroid.
Part of your thyroid health starts with your
gut and your immune system.
We’ve all heard of the condition leaky gut
to where if you have too much intestinal inflammation,
it can cause these gaps in your gut to where
certain toxins can get through, really strengthening
that gut lining can in turn help your thyroid
Bone broth contains proline and glycine and
Glucosamine, chondroitin and hyaluronic acid
and other nutrients that can help support
the health of your gut and your thyroid.
Probiotics, speaking of the gut, are a great
protector of this environment.
When your gut is healthy, everything is healthy.
Now, probiotics might not affect thyroid directly,
but they certainly do indirectly because many
people that have thyroid issues also have
IBS or leaky gut, as you mentioned, consume
a probiotic supplement with SBOs, Saccharomyces
boulardii, Lactobacillus plantarum.
Look for organic and get fermented foods in
There are many great fermented foods–kombucha,
kvass, kefir, etc.
Consume more fermented foods, boost your gut
and it will help your thyroid in turn.
Dr. Axe: Absolutely.
Another thing you want to do to help support
the thyroid is address nutrient deficiencies.
There are some specific nutrients that can
really throw off your thyroid.
I want to mention a few of those.
One group are B-vitamins, specifically thiamine
and vitamin B12.
When you are deficient in those nutrients,
it really can affect the overall function
of your thyroid, especially if you’re a person
who has low energy levels, you even get a
good night’s sleep, you’re tired the next
day, part of that can be these vitamin B deficiencies,
B1, again thiamine and B12 as well, a few
others, a big one is selenium.
Selenium is key for thyroid function.
I believe Brazil nuts are very, very high.
Again, one of the things you can do is start
using food as your medicine and do some things
such as more Brazil nuts and other selenium-rich
foods on a daily basis.
If you want to get a full selenium rich food
list, you can just Google Dr. Axe selenium
food list and you find a list that I’ve posted
Last but not least is monitoring your iodine
I typically recommend potentially doing that
with a physician or knowing if you have Hashimoto’s
If somebody has the autoimmune form of a thyroid
condition, sometimes they’re not absorbing
So, the problem is not that they’re not getting
The problem is that absorption.
If you do too much of it, it actually can
have side effects.
In that case what we could recommend is again,
getting your iodine levels tested and also
just doing them in a food-based form, not
doing high doses of iodine, doing things like
kept and seaweed in small doses instead, eating
other foods like strawberries which are high
in iodine is probably a better idea.
So, some nutritional deficiencies again, B-vitamins,
selenium and iodine are some things that can
actually affect the thyroid.
Speaking of thyroid-friendly foods, sea vegetables
Even if you don’t have iodine deficiency,
they’re still highly nutritious.
So, look for kelp, kombu, nori, you can find
them at your local health food or grocery
Coconut foods, particularly coconut oil is
very thyroid friendly.
In general, a diet that is higher in fat and
protein . . .
Dr. Axe: Yeah.
Down goes the pizza box.
Jordan: Bad pizza box.
See, just throw them off the table.
We want to consume higher protein, higher
fat, lower carb.
I see people, Josh, that are vegetarians and
they’re very heavy.
What that tells me is they’re really carboterians.
There are many people who need to consume
a higher fat–we’re talking about good fats–higher
protein, lower starch diet that is really,
really thyroid friendly.
In fact, people that are on a ketogenic diet
almost completely reverse thyroid symptoms
because they are running on an alternate fuel.
You’ll see people that are following a paleo-type
diet, a low carb diet do really well.
They lose weight not just because they’re
purging water, but because they are balancing
So, if you are a vegetarian or a vegan, it’s
You’ve got to go with the higher fat foods
because I really believe healthy, sustainably
raised animal foods are great for the thyroid,
green vegetables, etc.
Limiting those starches and nutrient density
is absolutely critical.
Dr. Axe: Yeah, couldn’t agree more.
Again, guys, remember these tips.
If you want to take your thyroid to the next
level, in general get the toxins out of your
Get rid of the chemically laden nonstick pans,
the things that are bleached here, all of
the chemicals not just in shampoo but in your
deodorants, in your skincare routine, use
essential oils, plant-based products instead,
get rid of the dental floss, there you go,
I’m not going to say get rid of anything else
because I don’t want to break this glass here.
And then as we talked about as well, Jordan,
eat more superfoods.
More bone broth, ashwagandha is absolutely
We talked about so many good essential oils
not just for your mood but for your thyroid.
We talked about seaweed.
Address nutritional deficiencies such as iodine,
Take a whole food organic mutli, eat a diet
that’s higher in protein, higher in good fats,
lower in starches.
Dr. Axe: Yeah.
You do that, you’re going to take your thyroid
health to the next level.
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